Coach K used James and Anthony predominatly in the role of a power forward. This is the role Anthony played during his very success college season. Whenever I discuss James with a coach, we agree that we do not understand wasting his talent 25-feet from the basket.
James is an exceptional passer. He is strong and fast. He is not, however, a great three-point shooter and he dribbles too much.
Playing James as the PF does not mean taking the ball out of his hands. The Kings ran their offense through Vlade Divac and Chris Webber and each exhibited his passing acumen. Imagine James at the high post. If he penetrates, there is no way for the weak side defender to get from outside the lane to a position where he can take a charge. So, the defender either has to cheat, meaning James can show off his passing skills, or challenge James as he jumps to dunk. I seriously do not know how anyone would defend the Cavs if they ran their offense through James at the high post. Teams would have to play zone and take their chances with James passing to his teammates on the perimeter.
When the Cavs give James the ball at half court and stand and watch him try to break down the other team, they make it easier for their opponents. They make James easier to guard. Honestly, James would get 35 and 8 if he played the game within 18-feet of the basket, rather than dribbling away half the shot clock 30-feet from the basket.
Anthony is similar. Everything about Anthony's game screams undersized power forward. Plus, Denver wants to be a running team. I would start Nene at center, Kleiza and Anthony at forward and Smith and Iverson at guard and allow Kleiza and Anthony to be interchangeable pieces, looking to exploit mismatches in the post or on the perimeter. If the opponent sends their power forward to defend Anthony, get him the ball at the high post or 15-feet out on the wing; if they send a small forward, get him the ball on the block. Use his talents. He is a crafty scorer around the basket and he moves well without the ball for a superstar. Use these skills. Keep him close to the basket where he is unstoppable and force opponents to double off Nene or Kleiza and find Nene cutting to the rim or Kleiza spotting up for three.
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I agree. James would be best suited playing the high post.
I wrote a blog about a potential move to the frontcourt a few weeks ago.
Keep up the great work, I'm a big fan of your blog.
I think Coach Brown is more concerned about the other end of the floor. He doesn't want James to guard KG, TD, Elton Brand, etc. for 82 regular season games. If James played the 4 the Cavs would need another big who could guard opposing fours and still hit threes on the offensive end. They don't have a guy like that on their roster.
That's an interesting thought. A few people on NBA Gauntlet have mentioned that James would be better without the ball in his hands all the time.
Also, this week Carmelo Anthony is matched up with Paul Pierce. Who do you think is better? Do you think they're not comparable since Melo should be a PF?
I'd take Pierce over Anthony. I think they have comparable skill sets. I think Pierce is one of the best post-up wings in the NBA. But, he also has a true game from the 3-pt line, which can become a weakness when he settles too much, like with James. I think Anthony is a really good rebounder, especially on the offensive boards as he has great instincts around the basket, but Pierce appears to be a better defender. So, I'd take Pierce. Well, if I was starting a new team, I'd probably take Anthony because of the age difference, but for this season, I'd rather have Pierce.
As for the Cavs' defensive end, Duncan plays center and that's two games a year. James is bigger physically than Brand, so what's the problem there? KG isn't a great match-up, but James is probably more physical than KG anyway.
James is huge. He's 6'9, 260lbs. I don't think he'd be a match-up disadvantage against many players. He's literally as big as Ben Wallace and he can still jump and move his feet. So, who would you rather guard KG or Brand?
I'm not a huge fan of Ben Gordon, but I think he'd be the perfect PG for the Cavs because he could play off James and make shots and be a big, physical guard. I know that's what they expect from Williams, but I'm not sold. I have not watched Williams enough. I liked him in Utah, but lost track in Milwaukee. But, I don't remember him being a light's out catch-and-shoot guy and remember a little dribble-happy PG. James needs a PG like Bibby or Hinrich who can pass into the post, use screens and catch-and-shoot.
Carmelo Anthony predominantly played the 3 on the Syracuse championship team. Some fellow by the name of Hakim Warrick you may recall as being the usual suspect at the 2, while Craig Forth played the 1. Of course, Melo played some 2, but his usual role was at the 3.
Obviously James would be a beast in the high post if he put his mind to it. I used to be a big proponent of it, but I've had this discussion with other people, and I've come to believe that the post (high or low) is a different animal than playing on the wing, as Lebron has his whole life.
There are so many intricacies to dealing with the post, first and foremost learning to play with your back to the basket. It is easier if you're used to it, but there's something to be said for being able to see everybody on the court right in front of you, as opposed to being blind to half of them and the basket.
In the high post, it is easier to face up, but it creates spacing problems because of the zone rules, and the post player is exposed to a lot of pressure from four sides. If you're not comfortable with this, then it's tough to adjust. You have to be quick and decisive, hold the ball high and strong, and you can't dribble. Lebron's play on the wing is the exact opposite of that process.
The other thing about the high post in particular is just the complete lack of freedom to move, probably the hardest thing for a wing player to adjust to. In low post situations, you can spread the floor and get some decent isolation. That's just not happening in the middle of the floor at the highest traffic spot in the halfcourt offense.
anonymous down there - what in the world kind of numbers are you using? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 2 the off-guard position, and the 1 the point guard position?
1 = PG
2 = SG
3 = SF
4 = PF
5 = C
He had some inverted numbers.
Like the idea for James, less for Anthony. I've been saying that James is a powerforward since his third season. I hate seeing him waste his energy chasing guys half his size around screens on defense and then dribbling directly nito traps at the top of the key on offense.
Anthony is a little different for me though. He could do it on some teams - play sort of a James Worthy / Bernard King 3 / 4 roll, but I don't think the Nuggets have the rebounding at the guard for that to work. I picture Linus and Melo trying to secure a rebound against Duncan, Garnett, or Boozer, and it turns into a tip jam for the opposition in my mind.
LeBron James is really a point guard. Why are we trying to make him a power forward.
Give him a 3 (Dorell Wright) and 4 (Shawn Marion) that can run and finish with him, and a 2 (Daquan Cook) that can trail and shoot the spot up three. Keep Z to trail and be the same big part of the halfcourt. Z and Marion rebound.
Then, you bring Mo Williams off the bench as 6th man of the year.
Wouldn't something like Marion/Wright/Cook for Varejao/ Szczerbiak/West (or substitute Wallace/Hickson and expirings for Varejao/ Szczerbiak) work for both teams.
That doesn't interfere with Miami's 2010 plans, and it gives them a legit center and point guard.
he isn't a PG. He is a playmaker. Why are we stuck in this 1980's fantasy world that all plays must be initiated by a PG at the top of the key? Asking James to break down 5 defenders from 30-feet from the basket is a mis-use of his skills. He plays with shooters. He always has. He is not a precise passer. He does not always make the pass on time, either. He is a great passer for a guy his size, but an average passer for a PG: do not confuse court vision (excellent) and assists per game with great passing.
A great passer gets the ball to his shooter in the right position at the precise moment. James does not.
Peja always shot better with the Kings when he received a pass from Vlade rather than Webber. Webber had better vision, but Vlade through better passes.
Why make the game harder for a player when you can make it easy and exploit his best talents? A playmaker can play from any position on the floor. James is a playmaker: he makes plays for himself and for others. But, he is not a perfect passer and he dribbles too much, therefore he is not a great PG just as Marbury is not a great PG even though he averages 8 assists per game for his career.
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